gauravster
07-08 03:48 PM
I am bringing these out not because I am opposed to equal treatment of folks on H1/ EAD etc - but because there are legitimate arguments both ways and unless we can prove unequivocally that there is gross miscarriage of justice in denying us this right and on the other hand - there is no disadvantage caused to anybody else by granting us this right - this idea is unlikely to see the light of the day
while i am happy to be proven wrong - i do not see anyone in this forum having a stomach for a protracted legal battle starting with lower courts and going all the way to Supreme Court - going back to my previous point - we do not see this as a "larger than me" cause
Incorrect words used by me, I did not mean that supreme court gave authority, but that supreme court did not find that discrimination based on country of origin for immigrants violates the basic tenents of this countries constitution.
I am not saying that this is a case on employers. If at all it would be a case against the discriminatory laws of the congress which allow someone to stay indefinitely but, do not allow them to work.
If a case like this is filed, I do not think, I do not see it going to be a proteacted battle. If enough coverage is given, the lawmakers might sit down and fix the problem or atleast have a quick temporary fix. Maybe even lawmakers might not be needed, just the DOJ would might update the rules (which it is allowed in case it determines that the laws are conflicting). Most important of all, this will bring the issues on the front from being a laggard.
while i am happy to be proven wrong - i do not see anyone in this forum having a stomach for a protracted legal battle starting with lower courts and going all the way to Supreme Court - going back to my previous point - we do not see this as a "larger than me" cause
Incorrect words used by me, I did not mean that supreme court gave authority, but that supreme court did not find that discrimination based on country of origin for immigrants violates the basic tenents of this countries constitution.
I am not saying that this is a case on employers. If at all it would be a case against the discriminatory laws of the congress which allow someone to stay indefinitely but, do not allow them to work.
If a case like this is filed, I do not think, I do not see it going to be a proteacted battle. If enough coverage is given, the lawmakers might sit down and fix the problem or atleast have a quick temporary fix. Maybe even lawmakers might not be needed, just the DOJ would might update the rules (which it is allowed in case it determines that the laws are conflicting). Most important of all, this will bring the issues on the front from being a laggard.
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ski_dude12
08-20 12:40 PM
My words exactly...
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
GCStatus
09-14 04:05 AM
Thanks for starting the thread. I share your grief and agree that we gotta do something. As much as I agree that we have to fight for our rights, I am not too sure if suing is the best option.
Again, if you all decide too, I will be more than glad to contribute my 100 but do we have enough ground to ask the questions in such 'blunt' manner? As much as you and I believe that our lives are completely topsy-turvied by these arcane policies, would some one arguing against our claim say that we are still entitled to do what we were allowed here to do. The employment visa allows us to work in a certain kind of job and nothing is hampering that aspect. Yes, it screws up promotions, displaces your plans to stay and has ill-effects both at a personal as well as professional levels but still..
If we have to sue, I think the ground work one has to do is immense. Find significant amounts of data from USCIS in terms of how random their approvals are and how it affects you after we all paid monies expecting a totally different pattern. If this can be accomplished, we could sue them probably for their lack of customer service, by-passing their guidelines on a consistent basis and thus hampering the lives of several people who were here for example in 2001, etc. I strongly believe data is our best friend (worst too, as it is personal data that we probably might not be entitled to even enquire..)
Again, I am no lawyer. I am sort of playing devil's advocate and just thinking through the obvious rebuttals. If we were too get enough data, combining that with active media publicity and some innovative ideas (flowers/clocks/watches whatever) or getting the businesses to acknowledge, then we may see certain changes.
I don't mean to damper your spirits by any sort. I certainly like the 'return my money if you fail to live by your own guidelines'.
Just the fact that, they keep going back from Current to Unavailable to 2006 to 2003 to etc, we have right to sue. Reasons below.
Financial loss.
Loss of business opportunity
Mental stress
Lack of moblility
List can go on.
Again, if you all decide too, I will be more than glad to contribute my 100 but do we have enough ground to ask the questions in such 'blunt' manner? As much as you and I believe that our lives are completely topsy-turvied by these arcane policies, would some one arguing against our claim say that we are still entitled to do what we were allowed here to do. The employment visa allows us to work in a certain kind of job and nothing is hampering that aspect. Yes, it screws up promotions, displaces your plans to stay and has ill-effects both at a personal as well as professional levels but still..
If we have to sue, I think the ground work one has to do is immense. Find significant amounts of data from USCIS in terms of how random their approvals are and how it affects you after we all paid monies expecting a totally different pattern. If this can be accomplished, we could sue them probably for their lack of customer service, by-passing their guidelines on a consistent basis and thus hampering the lives of several people who were here for example in 2001, etc. I strongly believe data is our best friend (worst too, as it is personal data that we probably might not be entitled to even enquire..)
Again, I am no lawyer. I am sort of playing devil's advocate and just thinking through the obvious rebuttals. If we were too get enough data, combining that with active media publicity and some innovative ideas (flowers/clocks/watches whatever) or getting the businesses to acknowledge, then we may see certain changes.
I don't mean to damper your spirits by any sort. I certainly like the 'return my money if you fail to live by your own guidelines'.
Just the fact that, they keep going back from Current to Unavailable to 2006 to 2003 to etc, we have right to sue. Reasons below.
Financial loss.
Loss of business opportunity
Mental stress
Lack of moblility
List can go on.
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ski_dude12
08-26 03:33 PM
Even my case was transferred from NSC to TSC. My I-485 receipt has receipt date as July 3 2007 but the notice date is September 7 2007. My A# is on the receipt but no PD.
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
I'm seeing lots of folks being greened whose PD is after us. Is it possible that they have PD on their 485 (because I-140 concurrently filed) and so it was picked up by officer? I guess it's not.
In response to infopass officer's request to expedite, I received letter from USCIS (within a week) . It shows my receipt# correct but shows filing date 10/10/2007. Actually, this is receipt date of case transfer to TSC from NSC.
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07-19 09:04 PM
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humdesi
03-11 11:22 PM
Had it been 1:1.. I would be on the next flight back home .. enjoying family, friends, bhelpuri, cricket , 10000 festivals, neigbors trooping in .. etc etc .
If money is the sole objective of staying in the US, you might want to take a serious look at returning back to India. These days there are lots of high paying jobs in India, esp in software sector. OK, so you wouldn't get the exact dollar amount, but you wouldn't have to pay $400K+ for a home either (except perhaps some parts of Bangalore and Bombay).
And if you are in the software field in the US, you will have to live with a constant fear of your job getting outsourced to India. Infact I think when the next tech downturn comes (note when, not if), there'll be a job bloodbath in the US IT sector. That's because most companies already know about outsourcing and have offices in India and China. When the going gets tough they'll easily shift everything engineering related to India and China. During the last tech bubble bust, outsourcing wasn't very well known - and even then it was painful. This time round it'll be much worse. It's a ticking time bomb..
If money is the sole objective of staying in the US, you might want to take a serious look at returning back to India. These days there are lots of high paying jobs in India, esp in software sector. OK, so you wouldn't get the exact dollar amount, but you wouldn't have to pay $400K+ for a home either (except perhaps some parts of Bangalore and Bombay).
And if you are in the software field in the US, you will have to live with a constant fear of your job getting outsourced to India. Infact I think when the next tech downturn comes (note when, not if), there'll be a job bloodbath in the US IT sector. That's because most companies already know about outsourcing and have offices in India and China. When the going gets tough they'll easily shift everything engineering related to India and China. During the last tech bubble bust, outsourcing wasn't very well known - and even then it was painful. This time round it'll be much worse. It's a ticking time bomb..
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07-20 11:44 AM
Pl. count me in....I pledge $100 towards Aman's expense re-imbursement.
Pl. let me know how to send the amount coz your post clearly says
"do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet"
(so far contributed $100 to IV)
Sure will let you know. Please check back the thread on monday for more details...
Pl. let me know how to send the amount coz your post clearly says
"do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet"
(so far contributed $100 to IV)
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pd_recapturing
04-25 03:41 PM
I was just wondering that how come only desi employers are branded as "blood sucking manicas" etc etc ..? Doesn't there exist same kind of breed from other nationalities ? if not, then question is why we desis are like that ? any idea ?
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danu2007
07-09 08:37 PM
Flower Campaign - Media published urls
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/gandhigiri-send-flowers-to-uscis/
http://www.touchdownusa.org/node/11
http://www.bibdaily.com/
http://www.immigration-law.com/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2183334.cms
http://digg.com/politics/Gandhigiri_Green_Card_Hopefuls_to_Send_Flowers
http://www.wikio.com/entertainment/movies/bollywood
http://news.speeple.com/desicritics.org/2007/07/06/green-card-applicants-resort-to-gandhigiri.htm
From uspolitics.einnews.com(This page got deleted recently)
U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services News - U.S. Politics Today
... changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10. ...
uspolitics.einnews.com/news/uscis - Jul 7, 2007 - Similar pages - Duly noted
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/gandhigiri-send-flowers-to-uscis/
http://www.touchdownusa.org/node/11
http://www.bibdaily.com/
http://www.immigration-law.com/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2183334.cms
http://digg.com/politics/Gandhigiri_Green_Card_Hopefuls_to_Send_Flowers
http://www.wikio.com/entertainment/movies/bollywood
http://news.speeple.com/desicritics.org/2007/07/06/green-card-applicants-resort-to-gandhigiri.htm
From uspolitics.einnews.com(This page got deleted recently)
U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services News - U.S. Politics Today
... changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10. ...
uspolitics.einnews.com/news/uscis - Jul 7, 2007 - Similar pages - Duly noted
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rpuja
08-11 10:15 PM
I know this not right place to ask this question . Please can anybody tell me how add a new thread.
Thanks in advance
Goto http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/index.php then select any thread from the categories and subcategories (like " I-485, EAD/AP application, renewal and related" ) you want. You should be able to "new Thread" button below the threads table. Good Luck. i am not sure why it has been made so tough to open a new thread.
Thanks in advance
Goto http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/index.php then select any thread from the categories and subcategories (like " I-485, EAD/AP application, renewal and related" ) you want. You should be able to "new Thread" button below the threads table. Good Luck. i am not sure why it has been made so tough to open a new thread.
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mnkaushik
08-30 11:53 AM
My wife and i got emails from USCIS and we checked our status online and it is now CPO. The approval is based on my wife's applicatiion ( EB2 India, Dec 2005). I had two applications one as her dependent and another my own that is EB3 I, Jan 2004.
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gcspace
10-16 09:50 AM
Any one from July12 - 16th got their checks/receipts?
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Macaca
07-10 10:13 AM
Thanks for posting this link. This is a must read on AOS.
8 CFR PART 245 -- ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=cf90b70814c3464912a08093ce96e 83c)
This link is for section 245 in TITLE 8 OF CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (8 CFR) (I think!) . This CFR may have other sections of use for us. For example, there may be section 240 that explains some other GC stage.
Please post a link that is table of contents of CFR. That is, it gives all section titles in CFR: Sec 1, Sec 2, .. Sec 245, Sec 246, ... Thanks!
8 CFR PART 245 -- ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=cf90b70814c3464912a08093ce96e 83c)
This link is for section 245 in TITLE 8 OF CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (8 CFR) (I think!) . This CFR may have other sections of use for us. For example, there may be section 240 that explains some other GC stage.
Please post a link that is table of contents of CFR. That is, it gives all section titles in CFR: Sec 1, Sec 2, .. Sec 245, Sec 246, ... Thanks!
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raju123
07-06 09:42 AM
In a mean time we should inform media for the flower delivery in a Mahatma Gandhi suggested way to protest injustice.
Some one with a good English please draft a letter and we all will send it to all media.
Media will not let it go...ALL THEY NEED IS NEWS!!! Which is new...Let us give a shot.
Just idea.
Some one with a good English please draft a letter and we all will send it to all media.
Media will not let it go...ALL THEY NEED IS NEWS!!! Which is new...Let us give a shot.
Just idea.
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joeshmoe
06-08 12:56 PM
looks like NSC is not working at all on receipts today.
How do you know this?
How do you know this?
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sreenivas11
08-14 08:48 AM
Update from http://www.immigration-law.com/
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mrdelhiite
09-13 08:31 AM
mailed on 2nd july received 3rd july notice date 10th sep sen to Nebraska receipt number from Nebraska. delivered at 11:14 am on July 03, 2007 and was signed for by F HEINAUER
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Gopi
Where was ur I140 approved ?
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Gopi
Where was ur I140 approved ?
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ushkand
08-03 11:10 AM
Someone who had their I-140 approved from TSC had their checks cashed from NSC yesterday -
http://www..com/discuss/485eb/19518573/
http://www..com/discuss/485eb/19518573/
sayonara
09-06 09:15 PM
Hi all,
Got my EAD (the actual card ) and the AP today in the mail. Details are as follows:
EB2 India - Filed Sept 06
140 Approved by TSC in Apr 07
485/EAD/AP Filed on July 2nd at NSC (R Williams 9 :02 am)
LUD on 140 - 08/05
Recd EAD and AP - 09/06
Have not received 485 receipt or FP notice. EAD and AP are from CSC - I recide in CA.
Good luck to all those still waiting !
Got my EAD (the actual card ) and the AP today in the mail. Details are as follows:
EB2 India - Filed Sept 06
140 Approved by TSC in Apr 07
485/EAD/AP Filed on July 2nd at NSC (R Williams 9 :02 am)
LUD on 140 - 08/05
Recd EAD and AP - 09/06
Have not received 485 receipt or FP notice. EAD and AP are from CSC - I recide in CA.
Good luck to all those still waiting !
sundevil
03-06 11:21 PM
Anything that has language to exempt from quota is bound to run into severe resistance. However one thing here in US is to challenge any ambiguous negativity in courts. Has there been any instance of challenging country quota in the court as discrimination as some people brought it up earlier. Remember laws can also be changed through courts also, not just legislation.
Even though we are far from Citizenship test, I know there are 3 branches of government,
Judicial, Legislative and Executive.
We do not seem to have much hope in the Legislative(Senate/House) and Executive(president) what are the chances of using that approach.
I hate to say this since I'm charged to the India queue as well. However this will not get solved soon. I saw on CNBC this afternoon that there were something like 53K H1b visas for Indians last year, next was china with like 8 or 9K, then others(I had no idea it was that lop-sided). When H1b visas are going so disproportionately to one country, the only solution to solve the EB green card logjam is to either put country caps on H1b visa or lift it on EB green cards. This is not opinion, it is quite simply a fact. Absent that, we can consider the EB green card route closed for anyone from India.
There is little and declining sympathy for the pro H1b forces. I suspect we will see highly restrictive legislation pretty soon, and based on the current sentiment wouldn't bet against it passing either.
Even though we are far from Citizenship test, I know there are 3 branches of government,
Judicial, Legislative and Executive.
We do not seem to have much hope in the Legislative(Senate/House) and Executive(president) what are the chances of using that approach.
I hate to say this since I'm charged to the India queue as well. However this will not get solved soon. I saw on CNBC this afternoon that there were something like 53K H1b visas for Indians last year, next was china with like 8 or 9K, then others(I had no idea it was that lop-sided). When H1b visas are going so disproportionately to one country, the only solution to solve the EB green card logjam is to either put country caps on H1b visa or lift it on EB green cards. This is not opinion, it is quite simply a fact. Absent that, we can consider the EB green card route closed for anyone from India.
There is little and declining sympathy for the pro H1b forces. I suspect we will see highly restrictive legislation pretty soon, and based on the current sentiment wouldn't bet against it passing either.
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