plassey
08-13 10:48 AM
Congratulations but I was wondering if you are more an exception then a rule...:confused:
Yes, i opened a new thread so that everybody can see that CIS does mostly work on cases according to 485 Receipt Date. Otherwise i can't justify my EAD approval. I filed 485 and AP on June 18th and got RNs 2 weeks later. But EAD was filed later on July 12th. I got the receipt number for EAD from the back of my cashed check but never got actual Receipt Notice. Today i got the email that card production has been ordered.
So if they have to approve an EAD filed in mid July, they must have gone with the 485 Receipt date. There is an LUD for our APs too for this Sunday. I'm happy that they are processing the cases in somewhat FIFO order. I was expecting EAD only 3-4months later since i filed it along with the July flood of applications.
Dec2002 EB3 India.
Yes, i opened a new thread so that everybody can see that CIS does mostly work on cases according to 485 Receipt Date. Otherwise i can't justify my EAD approval. I filed 485 and AP on June 18th and got RNs 2 weeks later. But EAD was filed later on July 12th. I got the receipt number for EAD from the back of my cashed check but never got actual Receipt Notice. Today i got the email that card production has been ordered.
So if they have to approve an EAD filed in mid July, they must have gone with the 485 Receipt date. There is an LUD for our APs too for this Sunday. I'm happy that they are processing the cases in somewhat FIFO order. I was expecting EAD only 3-4months later since i filed it along with the July flood of applications.
Dec2002 EB3 India.
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Ram_C
11-14 01:21 PM
My wife's EAD has not yet been approved. It has been 92 days since the receive date. We had an infopass appointment today. I did not apply for EAD.
The officer we met with mentioned that the EAD is issued only after the biometrics are done. I highly doubt this is the norm. Our FP is scheduled for Nov 21st. he said that the service center will electronically send the photo/fp to nebraska. Only then can I expect to see any movement on the EAD application.
I have heard that your FP/biometrics does not have anything to with EAD. However, this officer gave us information that is totally contrary to what we have seen in recent times. He mentioned that this is the latest procedure. He suggested that we should schedule another infopass appointment only If we do not get the EAD 3-4 weeks after the biometrics.
Any inputs from people with similar experience?
Yes you are true, FP doesn't have anything to do with EAD approval.
However if you apply EAD online, then you will get FP notice as a part of the process.
good luck :)
The officer we met with mentioned that the EAD is issued only after the biometrics are done. I highly doubt this is the norm. Our FP is scheduled for Nov 21st. he said that the service center will electronically send the photo/fp to nebraska. Only then can I expect to see any movement on the EAD application.
I have heard that your FP/biometrics does not have anything to with EAD. However, this officer gave us information that is totally contrary to what we have seen in recent times. He mentioned that this is the latest procedure. He suggested that we should schedule another infopass appointment only If we do not get the EAD 3-4 weeks after the biometrics.
Any inputs from people with similar experience?
Yes you are true, FP doesn't have anything to do with EAD approval.
However if you apply EAD online, then you will get FP notice as a part of the process.
good luck :)
sreeanne
10-30 02:04 PM
All you need is just apply for H1 extension and wait till USCIS gets back to you, if something happens, change you stat to EAD. I dont see any issues here.
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quizzer
10-05 12:26 PM
Naresh,
Please keep us posted.
Please keep us posted.
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div_bell_2003
02-18 08:20 PM
Great piece of info, dude ! :)
Just an additional question, what happens if the parents are in the I-485 applied stage and the baby is born outside of US ?
Child born abroad to Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) may be boarded if
child was born during the temporary visit abroad of a mother who is a lawful permanent resident alien, or a national, of the United States, provided that the child's application for admission to the United States is made within 2 years of birth and the child is accompanied by the parent who is applying for readmission as a permanent resident upon the first return of the parent.
Link for the document (http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/travel/inspections_carriers_facilities/carrier_info_guide/carrier_info_guide.ctt/carrier_info_guide.pdf)
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Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Just an additional question, what happens if the parents are in the I-485 applied stage and the baby is born outside of US ?
Child born abroad to Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) may be boarded if
child was born during the temporary visit abroad of a mother who is a lawful permanent resident alien, or a national, of the United States, provided that the child's application for admission to the United States is made within 2 years of birth and the child is accompanied by the parent who is applying for readmission as a permanent resident upon the first return of the parent.
Link for the document (http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/travel/inspections_carriers_facilities/carrier_info_guide/carrier_info_guide.ctt/carrier_info_guide.pdf)
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin

Jim77
10-15 12:31 PM
You can buy a confirmed ticket to India, take an Infopass appointment, and tell the Immigration Officer of your urgency to travel to India. Give him a copy of the ticket, a copy of your AP LIN/SRC and he/she should be able to get it expedited for you hopefully. This is my experience, plus I feel you have enough time until January.
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07-31 08:42 PM
Join state chapter to be upto date.
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H1B-GC
04-10 04:41 PM
163,000 applns for general and more than 31,200 applns for advanced degree.
How come Freaking 'Loudoggs' say 400K Applications were received by USCIS on his show . Freaking lier.
How come Freaking 'Loudoggs' say 400K Applications were received by USCIS on his show . Freaking lier.
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eb3retro
06-06 07:37 PM
Or you are going to be more scared and let these suckers suck you out more? The reason I am skeptical is, time to time we IVians receive these kind of posts all of a sudden and they vanish all of a sudden too. People like american desi give you all a fantastic response and my frustration is not knowing if you guys follow it. This is america for godsake and there are laws protecting the employee from these so called bodyshoppers who almost dont exist anymore. Partly the reason is because these suckers played so much of illegal things in the past, such as writing ridiculous contracts and preying on people like you. I even wonder how come people sign these contracts even in these days. Please take up american desi's advice and stand up for yourself and show your vendor that you are not scared of these things. and last but not the least, for your sake and for other people who may fall for this trap to this vendor, please do report them to department of labor.
Bottom line - pls dont come here for a quick response. We treat questions posted by others seriously and give meaningful and sincere reply. And on your end, please do what needs to be done.
Hi
I used to work to a client in Phx, got an interview request @ a financial firm in New york cleared it and vendor started processin' my H1 transfer. For the interview or for rellocation i wasn't paid anything. But before the start date bcoz of my credit report client rejected my offer.
But the vendor nuthin' in writing was the one who asked me to resign and bcoz of him was on bench for almost 2 1/2 months, now they say somewhere in the contract which says i have to repay all the expenses they spend on me which was close to $5000.
They sent an email sayin' i haven't provided the services to them from the start date indicated on the contract so have to repay them. Will i have to repay them jst bcoz i signed tht piece of the contract but i was rejected by the client, they said they won't try for new jobs i have to search myself as well they haven't paid me anything since they got my H1.
Do i stand any chance if i contact DOL or a lawyer not payin' them.
Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
The contract that you signed is valid only if UBS and your vendor have a work order between them stating that you will be offering your services to UBS from such and such date. As you failed the background check, I assume that they never executed such a work order.
Your vendor is asking for trouble. They're supposed to pay you the prevailing wage from the day you started working with them until the termination of employment. Moreover termination of employment is applicable only if they notify USCIS to cancel your H1. In such a case they're supposed to provide a return flight ticket for you and your dependents.
Your employer obviously doesn't know the rules governing H1 and is trying to play scare tactics with you. All you need to do now is to find another employer and transfer your H1. Then file a complaint with DOL to recover the backwages for the period you were on bench.
Bottom line - pls dont come here for a quick response. We treat questions posted by others seriously and give meaningful and sincere reply. And on your end, please do what needs to be done.
Hi
I used to work to a client in Phx, got an interview request @ a financial firm in New york cleared it and vendor started processin' my H1 transfer. For the interview or for rellocation i wasn't paid anything. But before the start date bcoz of my credit report client rejected my offer.
But the vendor nuthin' in writing was the one who asked me to resign and bcoz of him was on bench for almost 2 1/2 months, now they say somewhere in the contract which says i have to repay all the expenses they spend on me which was close to $5000.
They sent an email sayin' i haven't provided the services to them from the start date indicated on the contract so have to repay them. Will i have to repay them jst bcoz i signed tht piece of the contract but i was rejected by the client, they said they won't try for new jobs i have to search myself as well they haven't paid me anything since they got my H1.
Do i stand any chance if i contact DOL or a lawyer not payin' them.
Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
The contract that you signed is valid only if UBS and your vendor have a work order between them stating that you will be offering your services to UBS from such and such date. As you failed the background check, I assume that they never executed such a work order.
Your vendor is asking for trouble. They're supposed to pay you the prevailing wage from the day you started working with them until the termination of employment. Moreover termination of employment is applicable only if they notify USCIS to cancel your H1. In such a case they're supposed to provide a return flight ticket for you and your dependents.
Your employer obviously doesn't know the rules governing H1 and is trying to play scare tactics with you. All you need to do now is to find another employer and transfer your H1. Then file a complaint with DOL to recover the backwages for the period you were on bench.
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vallabhu
01-02 12:08 PM
I called USCIS customer service number and asked If I can speak to that specific adjudicator customer rep directed the call to another Officer and that lady understood the issue and mentioned that I should have called before i saw denial notice she might have helped by reviewing the decision made by adjudicators but now is too late and asked me to follow the steps mentioned on denial notice which is appeal.
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smartboy75
07-09 11:00 AM
Source www.immigration-law.com
07/09/2008: USCIS Biometric Changes For Re-Entry Permits and Refugee Travel Documents 07/08/2008
USCIS has issued revised instructions for USCIS Form I-131, Application for Travel Document. The instructions include changes effective March 5, 2008 that require applicants for re-entry permits and refugee travel documents to provide biometrics (e.g., fingerprints and photographs) at a USCIS Application Support Center (ASC) for background and security checks and to meet requirements for secure travel and entry documents containing biometric identifiers.
Q. May an I-131 applicant for a re-entry permit or refugee travel document complete biometrics outside of the United States?
A. Form I-131 instructions provide guidance for certain persons who are abroad at the time of filing to visit a U.S. Embassy or consulate for fingerprinting, although all applicants are urged to file before leaving the United States. Since certain overseas offices have the discretion to accept and adjudicate applications for refugee travel documents, although it is not mandatory that they do so, an applicant for a refugee travel document may complete biometrics outside of the United States, but is encouraged to wait to travel until his or her biometrics have been collected and the document delivered. As discussed earlier, certain overseas USCIS offices may, in their discretion, adjudicate Form I-131 filed for a refugee travel document (but not re-entry permits), where the applicant has failed to apply while in the U.S. (see 8 C.F.R. � 223.2(b)(2)(ii)). However, applicants for refugee travel documents should not count on the overseas offices necessarily agreeing to adjudicate Form I-131 in all cases, particularly where it is evident that the individual could have applied while in the U.S. and attended his or her biometrics appointment. Applicants for reentry permits should attend their biometric appointment at the designated ASC. If the applicant departs the United States before the biometrics are collected, the application may be denied.
Q. Will Form I-131 re-entry permit or refugee travel document be denied if the applicant leaves the U.S. after the application has been filed and receipted but before biometrics are completed?
A. Form I-131 form instructions state, �Departure from the United States before a decision is made on an application for a Re-entry Permit usually does not affect the application. However, where biometric collection is required and the applicant departs the United States before the biometrics are collected, the application may be denied.� Travel is not advisable. If an applicant leaves and comes back, his or her application may be denied while abroad, and he or she may not be able to get back into the country. Even though an overseas USCIS office may, in its discretion, take the biometrics of an applicant for a refugee travel document, there is no guarantee that the office will necessarily exercise its discretion to do so. Therefore, USCIS again urges all I-131 applicants for whom biometrics will be required to file their applications well in advance of their scheduled departure dates. USCIS suggests applicants apply for a travel document at least 60 days prior to the date of travel.
So if we efile EAD and then 2 months down the line efile AP, do we have to go twice for biometrics ???
07/09/2008: USCIS Biometric Changes For Re-Entry Permits and Refugee Travel Documents 07/08/2008
USCIS has issued revised instructions for USCIS Form I-131, Application for Travel Document. The instructions include changes effective March 5, 2008 that require applicants for re-entry permits and refugee travel documents to provide biometrics (e.g., fingerprints and photographs) at a USCIS Application Support Center (ASC) for background and security checks and to meet requirements for secure travel and entry documents containing biometric identifiers.
Q. May an I-131 applicant for a re-entry permit or refugee travel document complete biometrics outside of the United States?
A. Form I-131 instructions provide guidance for certain persons who are abroad at the time of filing to visit a U.S. Embassy or consulate for fingerprinting, although all applicants are urged to file before leaving the United States. Since certain overseas offices have the discretion to accept and adjudicate applications for refugee travel documents, although it is not mandatory that they do so, an applicant for a refugee travel document may complete biometrics outside of the United States, but is encouraged to wait to travel until his or her biometrics have been collected and the document delivered. As discussed earlier, certain overseas USCIS offices may, in their discretion, adjudicate Form I-131 filed for a refugee travel document (but not re-entry permits), where the applicant has failed to apply while in the U.S. (see 8 C.F.R. � 223.2(b)(2)(ii)). However, applicants for refugee travel documents should not count on the overseas offices necessarily agreeing to adjudicate Form I-131 in all cases, particularly where it is evident that the individual could have applied while in the U.S. and attended his or her biometrics appointment. Applicants for reentry permits should attend their biometric appointment at the designated ASC. If the applicant departs the United States before the biometrics are collected, the application may be denied.
Q. Will Form I-131 re-entry permit or refugee travel document be denied if the applicant leaves the U.S. after the application has been filed and receipted but before biometrics are completed?
A. Form I-131 form instructions state, �Departure from the United States before a decision is made on an application for a Re-entry Permit usually does not affect the application. However, where biometric collection is required and the applicant departs the United States before the biometrics are collected, the application may be denied.� Travel is not advisable. If an applicant leaves and comes back, his or her application may be denied while abroad, and he or she may not be able to get back into the country. Even though an overseas USCIS office may, in its discretion, take the biometrics of an applicant for a refugee travel document, there is no guarantee that the office will necessarily exercise its discretion to do so. Therefore, USCIS again urges all I-131 applicants for whom biometrics will be required to file their applications well in advance of their scheduled departure dates. USCIS suggests applicants apply for a travel document at least 60 days prior to the date of travel.
So if we efile EAD and then 2 months down the line efile AP, do we have to go twice for biometrics ???
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arihant
10-26 09:37 AM
I am not referring to the receipt notice. I am talking about the actual approval notice. I need to know this so that I can plan for Visa appointments.
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ravik
08-03 01:32 PM
Nothing to worry.They denied your SR Request.They denied MY SR request before but now they accepted my SR after 75 days and they ordered my EAD Card.Dont worry.
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gee_see
10-19 02:21 PM
I found an interesting article on AC21 portability in cyrusmetha.com
Here is the portion of the article appeared on May 27, 2005
about PORTABILITY DURING ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS
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Interestingly, the memo also advises that although a difference in the wage offer on the approved labor certification or I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of denial, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is �same or similar.� It is possible, however, for one to work in a �same or similar� occupation even if there is a substantial discrepancy in the wage. A CEO of a Fortune 100 corporation may be paid several million of dollars each year. The CEO of a start-up could make much less, say $50,000 per annum. One should be able to successfully argue that the CEO of a start-up is in a �same or similar� job to the CEO of a Fortune 100 corporation.
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Experts please discuss....
Here is the portion of the article appeared on May 27, 2005
about PORTABILITY DURING ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS
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Interestingly, the memo also advises that although a difference in the wage offer on the approved labor certification or I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of denial, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is �same or similar.� It is possible, however, for one to work in a �same or similar� occupation even if there is a substantial discrepancy in the wage. A CEO of a Fortune 100 corporation may be paid several million of dollars each year. The CEO of a start-up could make much less, say $50,000 per annum. One should be able to successfully argue that the CEO of a start-up is in a �same or similar� job to the CEO of a Fortune 100 corporation.
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trueguy
12-11 01:43 AM
In a testimony to the House Judiciary Committee back in Apr/May 08, the USCIS clearly stated that it had changed its policy regarding which applications would be adjudicated first.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
Very good points. I can't agree with you any more.
The question is how do we raise it as an issue so USCIS follow FIFO.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
Very good points. I can't agree with you any more.
The question is how do we raise it as an issue so USCIS follow FIFO.
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PMisYMMV
09-03 11:13 AM
I have got an LUD on 09/01/2009 for both the cases, but the status is still pending.
I am worried, did any have similar experience?
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webm
04-21 02:39 PM
Congratulations on getting your GC !!!
I need to ask you a question as I don't see on LUD after FP in 485. However LUD changed on my approved I-140.
Was there any LUD on I-140 case after your FP?
Regards
Normally there should be a LUD on 485 after FP is done (same day/next)..
I need to ask you a question as I don't see on LUD after FP in 485. However LUD changed on my approved I-140.
Was there any LUD on I-140 case after your FP?
Regards
Normally there should be a LUD on 485 after FP is done (same day/next)..
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boston_guy147
02-18 08:37 PM
Thanks gst76!...thats very useful info...I did not know that it was mandatory to go to home country for 1st H1b stamping. Is this a new rule?
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WeldonSprings
02-25 03:01 PM
USCIS can pre-adjudicate a case, even when visa numbers are not available. This means that USCIS processes all the application, but just waits for a visa number to finalize it.
The processing date listed is the received date of the oldest case that they have not adjudicated or pre-adjudicated yet (maybe due to some problem). It does not mean that cases filed after April 2007 are or will not be adjudicated.
The processing date listed is the received date of the oldest case that they have not adjudicated or pre-adjudicated yet (maybe due to some problem). It does not mean that cases filed after April 2007 are or will not be adjudicated.
jonty_11
01-15 12:07 PM
Problem is it will be another $500 expense (Test plus air Tickets) as the test center is not in my state/city.
I do have a Masters from US and 6 plus years expirience in US.
I had written a detailed letter explaining all that....I am going to try to take it withing 120 days as stipulated in the letter...
I do have a Masters from US and 6 plus years expirience in US.
I had written a detailed letter explaining all that....I am going to try to take it withing 120 days as stipulated in the letter...
boldm28
08-14 10:51 AM
this is in response to some who say what if India does this and that ...the point is that India will do nothing. In general we have passive leaders and our PM is a great example of that - if it was done against china then immediately there would have retaliation. in some ways it is good if it stops the misuse ...I guess the biggest losers in this are the lawyers - more lawyer shops will close down
you got it dude .. just imagine , we are trying to dictate laws in some other country and blame law makers in the US ( senators , congressmen) , but all this things happen in India , we just accept the fact and move on .. so just accept the fact and move on , we cant do anything about it , as far as politicians are concerned in India , they do what they want classic eg is Kalmadi who has been taking bribes from God know when , you guys know rite
ViTESSE ( maruti dealeship) is own by Kalmadi's . I can go on and on but dont want to clog the forums
you got it dude .. just imagine , we are trying to dictate laws in some other country and blame law makers in the US ( senators , congressmen) , but all this things happen in India , we just accept the fact and move on .. so just accept the fact and move on , we cant do anything about it , as far as politicians are concerned in India , they do what they want classic eg is Kalmadi who has been taking bribes from God know when , you guys know rite
ViTESSE ( maruti dealeship) is own by Kalmadi's . I can go on and on but dont want to clog the forums
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